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RE: Assumed Deceased: Carrie Culberson--OH--08/28/1996
« Reply #15 on: September 12, 2007, 08:43:40 AM »
http://www.wcpo.com/news/local/story.aspx?content_id=63bc7cfe-9446-4477-a9c1-a14a2998e397


Debbie Culberson Helps Unveil New DNA Database




09/11/07

The mother of a local woman who has been missing since 1996 is throwing her support behind a new DNA database.

Debbie Culberson was in Washington, D.C., Tuesday for the unveiling of the National Missing and Unidentified Missing Persons System.

The new national database can be used to match unidentified remains with records of missing people.

Though Culberson's daughter Carrie remains missing, Vincent Doan was convicted of her murder in 1997.

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RE: Assumed Deceased: Carrie Culberson--OH--08/28/1996
« Reply #16 on: September 26, 2007, 10:51:08 AM »
http://www.local12.com/news/local/story.aspx?content_id=e447a43c-6f49-4f3f-b06e-775a453ecf6b

House To Vote On National DNA Database

September 25, 2007

The House could pass a resolution today inspired by the mother of a missing local woman.

Debbie Culberson is pushing for a national database that would match unidentified human remains with records of missing people. Her daughter, Carrie, was murdered in 1996. Her body has never been found.

 


Carrie's boyfriend, Vincent Doan, is serving life in prison for her murder.


The House resolution calls for continued federal funding for DNA testing and the combined DNA index system used to identify victims.

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RE: Assumed Deceased: Carrie Culberson--OH--08/28/1996
« Reply #17 on: November 02, 2007, 01:50:50 PM »
http://www.local12.com/mostpopular/story.aspx?content_id=3bee46a2-59af-4627-9931-*9be87f32f29

Where Are The Key Players In The Culberson Murder Case Now?

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Fed to hogs, strapped in her car and crushed, dismembered with a chainsaw and scattered across the country.

In the 10 years since her disappearance, those are just some of the rumors about what happened to Carrie Culberson's body. They haunt the Tri-State community where her boyfriend, Vince Doan, killed her 10 years ago.

Most of the key players in Culberson's murder case still live in tiny Blanchester. Today, while Vince Doan is still trying to get a new trial, Local 12's Deborah Dixon checks in on the people involved in the case and finds out just how far Debbie Culberson will go to find Carrie.

Debbie Culberson still lives in the village where her daughter, Carrie, was last seen alive. Last seen being beaten by boyfriend Vince Doan. His family still lives here too. Debbie sometimes sees his father, Lawrence Baker, up town. Debbie says when she sees Lawrence she gives him a nod and a wave to let him know that she is not going anywhere and that she will not be intimidated.

Debbie is not intimidated by Tracey Baker either. She was in court earlier this year when Vice Doan's half brother was convicted of domestic violence. Baker came back home after doing eight years for helping Vince hide Carrie's body. Debbie says she also wants Tracey to know she isn't going anywhere. "My focus is on trying to find Carrie, If it means keeping an eye on you and what you're doing that's what I'm going to do"

Nearly all the players in this sad story still live together in Blanchester, more than a decade after the town was turned upside down by murder.

Tracey Baker now lives in the house where Vince lived when Carrie was killed. The witness, who saw Vince twist Carrie's arm behind her back, punch her and tell her 'I told you the next time I'd kill you' on the night she disappeared, still lives in the same house, too. Tracey's ex-wife, Lori Baker, still lives there as well. She testified in court that the night Carrie disappeared, Vince showed up at the house covered in blood, then left with Tracey, seven garbage bags and a gun. Before Lori knew Carrie was missing, she was thinking dismemberment.

Debbie worked with the Justice Department to create a DNA Database to match unidentified remains with missing people. Debbie just wants to bury her daughter's bones.

So, what's in it for Vince Doan? Clinton County Detective, Brian Edwards, says "if he were to tell us where she's at and we were able to recover remains, we would definitely be open to negotiating a new sentence."

A new sentence that could set Vince Doan, who is serving a life term, free.

Culberson's mother says, "if he would tell them where she is and they wanted to release him tomorrow, I wouldn't care."

Vince and his family do not want to talk. His mother says she believes her son is innocent.

Supporters are looking ahead to another appeal. One court already upheld Doan's conviction and the Ohio Supreme Court refused to consider his case. Doan's attorney says Vince has no information to share. However, if his appeals run out, some wonder if that could change.

Debbie Culberson won a lawsuit against the Village for the Police Department's mishandling her daughter's murder. The insurance company paid the settlement. Carrie's family agreed to less than the jury award.
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RE: Assumed Deceased: Carrie Culberson--OH--08/28/1996
« Reply #18 on: November 08, 2007, 07:11:38 PM »
http://www.madisoncourier.com/main.asp?SectionID=4&SubSectionID=253&ArticleID=39871

11/8/2007 3:00:00 PM 

Tour calls attention to missing persons

Laura Halleman
Courier Staff Writer
 
On Oct. 17, 2000, 40-year-old singer-songwriter Gina Bos disappeared after playing at a local pub in Lincoln, Neb. A mother of three, Gina's car was found across the street from the pub with her guitar in the trunk. She has not been seen or heard from since.

On Aug. 26, 1995, 23-year-old Heather Teague was lying in the sun on a beach in Spottsville, Ky. When a witness says a man appeared from behind her, jerked her up by her hair and drug her into the woods. She has not been seen or heard from since.

On Sept. 3, 2006, 44-year-old Walter Smith, Jr. was last seen at his home in Edinburgh. His black, 2000 Daewoo Laganza was located abandoned two months later on the north side of Franklin. He has not been seen or heard from since.

And the list goes on and on. According to the FBI, tens of thousands of people vanish under suspicious circumstances each year, and there are as many as 100,000 active missing-persons cases daily.

As time goes by and the leads on a missing person fade, law enforcement officials eventually deem them cold cases. But for the families and friends, the unknown of what has happened to their loved one is a constant ache, and their strength and resilience spur them to continue their quest for answers by banding together with other families to find the missing and find creative outlets in doing so.

One such nonprofit organization is www.411Gina.org. Founded in 2001 by Gina Bos' sister, Jannel Rap, the mission of the organization is to bring together musicians and media through what has become known as The Squeaky Wheel Tour.

"After my sister disappeared, I got very depressed for some time. One night I went to bed and sat up in the morning and thought, 'We need to get news attention about this. We need to make some noise,'" Rap said. "I knew Gina was pushing me to do this, and I couldn't look at her kids and not do something about it. It was as if God told me what to do, too. I never knew what faith was until she disappeared."

So that's what Rap did. She made some noise. Continually calling the detectives working on Gina's case, Rap made her voice heard because Gina's could not be, she said.

With the inception of the Squeaky Wheel Tour, Rap, who is a member of the tour's headliner band Clementine, said her hope is to bring media attention to missing people whose circumstances surrounding their disappearance are not deemed "lurid" or "dramatic" enough to receive national attention.

The concert tour is held annually, and this year it played 19 shows across the country, including one that generated a packed house at the Electric Lady in Madison. As with each show, fliers with the faces and details of local missing persons are laid out on tables and displayed on posters for those in attendance to see.

Molly Dattilo, who grew up in Madison and who disappeared in Indianapolis on July 6, 2004, was one of several missing persons from the surrounding area whose disappearance was highlighted.

Last year, the tour brought home 10 people, including a boy who had run away from his home in Indiana and was living in New York City.

The missing boy attended the concert in New York and saw his face on the CD cover as one that was missing. He realized his parents did care and were looking for him, so he contacted his parents after the show.

The show in Madison brought out many relatives from Indiana, Ohio and Kentucky whose loved ones are missing.

Two women in attendance, whose daughters disappeared in separate states, share a heartbreaking similarity. Although the two men responsible for their daughters' deaths were convicted and given lengthy prison sentences based on circumstantial evidence, they refuse to tell these mothers where their daughters remains are, leaving them without closure.

Patti Bishop's stepdaughter Karen Jo Smith, 35, disappeared from Indianapolis on Dec. 27, 2000. Smith divorced Steven D. Halcomb after a volatile, abusive relationship. Halcomb was convicted and sentenced to 95 years in prison for the murder of Smith, but her remains have not been found and Halcomb isn't talking.

"He has a narcissistic personality, and I don't know if he'll ever tell us where she is, but we will never stop searching for her," Bishop said.

Bishop is now heavily involved in domestic violence awareness and is a volunteer for TeamHOPE, a support network for families of missing children and adults. In 2001, after contacting Rap, she helped organize the first Squeaky Wheel Tour to be held in Indiana.

"It's a passion of mine now. You never realize that in a split second someone you love and cherish will disappear from your life. We will never let other families give up hope," Bishop said.

On Aug. 28, 1996, 22-year-old Carrie Culberson disappeared from Wilmington, Ohio. Culberson's abusive ex-boyfriend, Vincent Doan, was convicted and sentenced to life without the possibility of parole for her murder. Her remains have not been found. At Doan's sentencing, Carrie's mother, Debbie Culberson, urged Doan to tell her where her daughter's body could be found, but her pleas were met with silence.

"We have told him that if he would tell us where Carrie is, we would agree to a sentence reduction, but he has so far refused," Culberson said. "I and my daughter have been robbed of the natural grieving process that comes with losing a loved one because of this. Some people say our bodies are just a vessel, but it's that physical bond that we need to have closure."

She has since channeled her grief and frustration by working with Congressman Steve Chabot to get legislation passed that would require mandated testing of any unidentified dead and a national repository for these test results for all states to be able to access.

This week the U.S. Justice Department's Office of Justice Programs demonstrated the National Missing and Unidentified Persons System, or NamUS, that the department had announced it was setting up in July. NamUs is a national database for matching unidentified human remains with records of missing persons. Ultimately, medical examiners, coroners, law enforcement officials, forensic professionals and the public will be able to use the database to search and match missing persons records and information about unidentified human remains.

The Office of Justice Programs' Bureau of Justice Statistics found that on average, 4,400 unidentified human bodies are received in medical examiners' and coroners' offices each year, and about 1,000 remain unidentified after a year.

The database is at www.namus.gov.

Culberson said she feels guilt for her other daughter for what she said is the "Left Behind Children" syndrome.

"I was there for her physical needs when she was growing up, but I was so absorbed in the trial and finding Carrie that she not only lost her sister, she lost me, and sadly, that has put a strain on our relationship," Culberson said.

The grassroots organizations are a monumental aid to those who want to spread the word of a missing loved one or to console those who have or are experiencing the agony of the unknown that some say is indescribable unless someone has gone through it.

But they know their work is not done. With each passing day, another flier with the photo of a missing son, daughter, brother, sister, mother, father or other relative is posted in a neighborhood.

"Some people say to me, 'It's been years since your daughter disappeared. Maybe it's time you let it go and moved on with your life,'" Sarah Teague, the mother of Heather Teague, said. "I tell them I will not rest until I have justice, but more importantly I will not stop searching, waiting, hoping and praying for a miracle. How can I? I am her mother."

For more on missing persons or to post information on a missing person, visit www.411Gina.org or www.teamhope.org.
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RE: Assumed Deceased: Carrie Culberson--OH--08/28/1996
« Reply #19 on: July 16, 2008, 11:43:20 AM »
http://www.local12.com/news/local/story.aspx?content_id=237bbc3b-20cf-4252-a37e-ffe25476e835

New Tool To Match Remains To Missing Persons

Last Update: 7/08 9:21 am 

A local mother's dedication could help solve thousands of family mysteries and some murders.

Debbie Culberson is on the board of the National Missing and Unidentified Persons System.

Culberson worked with the Justice Department to create a centralized, online tool to match the unidentified dead, with missing persons across the country.

Local 12's Deborah Dixon shows how, for Culberson, the mission is personal, as she looks for the remains of her daughter, Carrie, killed 12 years ago.

Great American Ball Park filled to capacity. It would take 8,000 more people to equal the number of unidentified dead in America.

"The number of unidentified bodies is astounding," said Dr. Amy Burrows-Beckham, Kentucky medical examiner. "It's been called the nation's silent national disaster."

Some of the unidentified dead were murdered. Thousands have families searching for answers.

There was no way to do that, until now.

Now there is NamUs, the National Missing and Unidentified Persons System.

Debbie Culberson is looking for daughter, Carrie's, remains. Possibly this skull. The X-ray was taken after ex-boyfriend Vince Doan hit her in the head. He's doing life for her murder. Carrie's body has never been found.

Now, Debbie can search NamUs for her remains by comparing Carrie's profile, in the missing person database with the database of unidentified dead.

Kentucky's Forensic Anthropologist Emily Craig helps Debbie Culberson create Carrie's profile. The missing persons part of NamUs will be up in the fall.

The two, Tri-State women were forces behind NamUs. For Dr. Craig, it means possible identification of some of the 54 unidentified dead in Kentucky, alone. Dr. Craig's created profiles on all of them.

"There is incredible potential on both sides of the equation," said Dr. Craig. "Coroners have to get information into the database. And even more important, families of the missing have to get information into the database."

Information such as a broken bones, or a childhood head injury, but dental records. are the most important identifier.

Families can take a digital photo for NamUs.

No remains in NamUs match Carrie so far. But the database is growing by thousands daily as coroners and medical examiners enter profiles.

Now, Debbie can search for Carrie, usually at night when she can't sleep. Something she says will not change until her search is over.

The cases on the NaMus web site are open to investigators and the public.

This fall, families can begin entering profiles of their missing loved ones. They will be reviewed by a gatekeeper before they are added to the system.
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RE: Assumed Deceased: Carrie Culberson--OH--08/28/1996
« Reply #20 on: September 27, 2008, 05:33:36 PM »
http://www.local12.com/news/local/story.aspx?content_id=0810eb2a-f99e-47c1-8a32-df18cfa8c8eb

New Dig For Carrie Culberson's Body

9/26/2008

"We received information from a reliable source... someone who would possibly know."

Someone who could possibly know what happened to Carrie Culberson's body when she was murdered 12 years ago. The tip led to a new dig. While much of the Tri-State was digging out of wind damaged property, the Clinton County Sheriff's Office was digging up a well. The tip is one of dozens the sheriffs office still gets every year since Carrie Culberson was murdered a dozen years ago. Boyfriend Vince Doan is doing life for murder. Carrie's body has never been found.
Local 12's Deborah Dixon tells us what led investigators to a property outside Blanchester and what they found.

Investigators used a backhoe to dig up the old well outside Blanchester, then fill it up. The tip that Carrie Culberson's body might there came from a credible source.

Sheriff Ralph Fizer, Clinton County: "If there is a good possibility, we will go to the expense of renting a backhoe. This was one of those cases."

Deborah Dixon: "The location of the well fit the scenario prosecutors gave jurors who convicted Vince Doan of Carrie's murder. His family's junk yard is a couple of miles away. It's believed Carrie's body was in the pond at the junk yard then removed."

12 years ago, cadaver dogs hit on the pond, but the Blanchester Police Chief called off the search. The pond was drained the next day. There were recent drag marks on the floor. Something was pulled out. That's why the tip about the nearby well, close to the road, fit.

Debbie Culberson, Carrie's Mother: "People are talking, they continue to, I think some people want me to find Carrie as much as I want her found."

The night carrie disappeared, a witness said she saw Vince Doan beating her and threatening to kill her. Later, another witness said Vince was covered in blood. Police believe what happened to Carrie's body after that is a dark family secret.

"When we do find her, I think it will be a shock that she could have been under our noses the whole time."

Sheriff Fizer believes Carrie's body will be found, only then will her case be closed. All Vince Doan's appeals have been denied, so far, and it is unlikely the U.S. Supreme Court will even consider his case. Debbie Culberson has said she would ask prosecutors to free Vince Doan, if he tells her where Carrie's body is.

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RE: Assumed Deceased: Carrie Culberson--OH--08/28/1996
« Reply #21 on: October 01, 2008, 12:05:40 PM »
http://www.wnewsj.com/main.asp?SectionID=49&SubSectionID=156&ArticleID=169800&TM=69.549

9/30/2008 11:42:00 PM

Search continues for Carrie

ROSE COOPER
County Editor

Twelve years after Carrie Culberson disappeared from Blanchester, the search for her remains still continues. She was last seen the night of Aug. 28, 1996.

A witness said she saw Vince Doan, Carrie’s boyfriend, beating her and threatening to kill her in the front yard of his Blanchester home. Later, another witness said she saw Vince covered in blood.

In August 1997, Doan was convicted of Culberson’s murder and he is serving a life sentence without parole.

Culberson’s body and her red 1989 Honda CRX were never found, but Clinton County Sheriff Ralph D. Fizer Jr. said his department still receives anywhere from 30 to 50 tips a year and his officers check all of them out.


 

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« Reply #22 on: October 02, 2008, 10:26:22 AM »
http://www.wnewsj.com/main.asp?SectionID=49&SubSectionID=156&ArticleID=169810&TM=26942.7

10/1/2008
 
Shirt mistakenly linked to Carrie

Detectives with the Clinton County Sheriff’s Office continue to check out tips that could lead to the recovery of the remains of Carrie Culberson who disappeared from Blanchester on Aug. 28, 1996.

In one recent tip, an unidentified source told detectives to check out an abandoned well on Taylor Pike in Clermont County, but no evidence was found in the well.

In the story in Wednesday’s News Journal about the well being drained and dug out, information was used from a story in 2004 which stated that Carrie’s shirt was found buried under concrete in a pole barn owned by a Blanchester area man.

Lt. Brian Edwards, a detective with the sheriff’s office, said Wednesday Carrie’s mother, Debbie, identified the shirt at the dig as being Carrie’s shirt. She made the identification from a picture provided by an officer from another department, Edwards said.

Afterwards, the shirt was placed into evidence at the Clinton County Sheriff’s Office. Some time later, Debbie asked to see the shirt, Edwards said. When she saw the actual shirt, she said it was not her daughter’s, he said.

Edwards said the Clermont County Sheriff’s Office received a tip about checking out the pole barn and obtained a search warrant for the property. Clermont County was assisted in the search by officers from the Brown County Sheriff’s Office.

“We didn’t have anything to do with the search,” Edwards said. “We just went down there to watch because it was our case. There was no evidence whatsoever found in that barn that pertained to Carrie,” Edwards said Wednesday night.

 

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RE: Assumed Deceased: Carrie Culberson--OH--08/28/1996
« Reply #23 on: October 29, 2008, 03:07:39 PM »
http://www.wlwt.com/news/17830143/detail.html

Culberson Slaying Case Could Be Reopened
Clinton Co. Man Convicted, Although Body Never Found

POSTED: 10:26 am EDT October 29, 2008
UPDATED: 1:34 pm EDT October 29, 2008

CINCINNATI -- Lawyers asked a three-judge panel Wednesday to reopen the case of a Clinton County man convicted of murder in the death of his girlfriend.

Vincent Doan was sentenced in 1997 to life in prison without the possibility of parole in the slaying of 22-year-old Carrie Culberson.

The Blanchester woman had disappeared Aug. 28, 1996, and prosecutors said that Doan kidnapped and killed her.

Culberson’s body was never recovered, and Doan’s attorneys argued during his original trial that she might still be alive because there is no concrete evidence that she is dead.

According to court records, Culberson filed assault charges against Doan following a violent dispute, and prosecutors also said Doan had a history of violence against Culberson, his girlfriend of two years.

Witnesses testified that the pair became involved in another violent dispute on the evening that Culberson disappeared.

Culberson’s family was awarded $3.75 million in a 2001 lawsuit filed against the village of Blanchester, after jurors faulted police for calling off a search for the missing woman’s body in a pond on land owned by Doan’s relatives.

Doan’s attorneys argued in federal court that authorities should re-examine the case, but no decision has been made.
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RE: Assumed Deceased: Carrie Culberson--OH--08/28/1996
« Reply #24 on: October 30, 2008, 09:34:42 AM »
http://www.700wlw.com/pages/localNews.html?feed=119585&article=4496064

Lawyers Look to Reopen Case
Wednesday, October 29, 2008   

(Cincinnati) Lawyers have asked a three-judge panel to reopen the case of Vincent Doan. The Clinton County man was sentenced to life in prison without the possibility for parole back in 1997 for the murder of his girlfriend, 22-year-old Carrie Culberson.

Culberson went missing in 1996, but her body was never found. Lawyer's argued during Doan's original trial that there was no concrete evidence she wasn't still alive.

According to court records, Doan had a history of violence against Culberson. Witnesses say they two had a violent dispute the night she disappeared.

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RE: Assumed Deceased: Carrie Culberson--OH--08/28/1996
« Reply #25 on: August 28, 2009, 09:11:23 PM »
http://www.examiner.com/x-20459-Cincinnati-Grief-Examiner~y2009m8d28-Honoring-the-mother-of-a-murdered-child

August 28, 9:33 PM
Rebecca Young
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Honoring the mother of a murdered child

Its been 13 years since the Blanchester, Ohio mother of Carrie Culberson discovered her then 22-year-old daughter was missing.  From that August day in 1996 when we learned of Carries disappearance, we have been spell-bound by Carries mysterious disappearance, the numerous, unsuccessful searches for Carries missing body and her red Honda CRX, the subsequent trial and conviction of Carries boyfriend, Vince Doan, and the civil trial against the City of Blanchester. 
 

But for Debbie Culberson, Carries mother, the story does not end there.  Culberson began working as an advisor to the U.S. Department of Justices program called NamUs the National Missing and Unidentified Persons System, which offers an online database of unidentified remains and missing persons.  Culberson has expressed her grief through her work on this program that she hopes will one day lead to the recovery of Carries remains.
 

For support in her grief, Culberson also turned to Parents of Murdered Children (POMC), whose national office is located here in Cincinnati.  POMC was founded by Robert and Charlotte Hullinger in Cincinnati Ohio, in 1978 after the murder of their 19-year old daughter Lisa.  The organization provides the on-going emotional support needed to help parents and other survivors facilitate the reconstruction of a "new life" and to promote a healthy resolution.   Finishing its annual conference this past week in Cincinnati, POMC honored Debbie Culberson with the Courage Award.  So many people think you should just get over it.  But we come here to remember them.  Debbie Culberson honors all of our lost loved ones through her undying love for her daughter.  This mother thanks you.
  

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Re: Assumed Deceased: Carrie Culberson--OH--08/28/1996
« Reply #27 on: February 16, 2010, 02:56:46 PM »
http://www.local12.com/news/local/story/New-Clues-May-Solve-Mystery-of-Missing-Girl/Je0phUONWkSu7mUS6jel9w.cspx

New Clues May Solve Mystery of Missing Girl
New Clues May Solve Case Of Missing Teen From 20 Years Ago

Last Update: 02/16/2010 at 1:13 pm 

The disappearance of 17 year old Karen Spencer has led to 20 years of her parents' grief and investigators' frustration. That may soon end. A prosecutor is finding new meaning in old clues. Local 12's Deborah Dixon tells us a grand jury may sort out the evidence.
 
A red 1982 Dotsun B-310, red in color, is what a mustached young man said he was driving when he stopped on I-275 to see if two girls needed help. It was about three in the morning on December 30th, 1989.

Karen Spencer had just gotten out of her sister in law's car near the Loveland Maderia exit because the two were arguing. Karen walked south. Did she accept a ride with the stranger in the red car... a car that disappeared the next day? Her father, Richard Spencer, thinks so. "That might be her casket. We don't know."
 
Clermont County Prosecutor Daniel Breyer knows the stories the Dotson driver told over the years don't add up. Police stopped considering him a suspect when he passed a polygraph, or did he? Now, FBI profilers have taken another look. "Behavioral scientists now say he did not pass he was manipulating the test. If they had those tracings they would have said he failed."

A friend told police the suspect talked about the girl who went missing from I-275, hours before Karen Spencer was even reported missing. "We're curious what would make him think something happened to her."

And there's something else. Karen's sister in law said she blew off the Dotson driver's offer to help and she never saw him again. So why when questioned by police did he know the subject matter of the argument between Karen and her sister-in-law. Did Karen tell him? Diane Spencer is Karen's Stepmother: "She would not have been an easy victim. She would never have been submissive. She would have fought with everything she had."

Whatever happened that morning, the Karen Spencer case is a murder investigation which could end up going to a grand jury. So far this is a circumstantial case: evidence is presented then to a jury, which is asked to use its common sense. Here's how its explained. If you leave a cake on the table, and go to bed, come down the next day, a piece is missing and your daughter has chocolate on her face, it is circumstantial evidence she at the cake.
 
Like the Carrie Culberson case, evidence does not include a body. Prosecutors didn't need it to convict Carrie's killer of murder. Prosecutor Daniel Breyer doesn't think he needs a body either. "I don't believe I'll have trouble convincing a jury she's dead, the task here is to convince a jury who did it."

Who did it? After 20 years the family feels its closer than ever to finding out. "It's about time." 
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Re: Assumed Deceased: Carrie Culberson--OH--08/28/1996
« Reply #28 on: August 08, 2010, 07:46:28 PM »
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Appeals court: Lawsuit over mess made in hunt for body can continue
By Dan Horn   August 6, 2010

Sheriff's deputies didn't find what they were looking for six years ago when they dug a huge hole in Jeanette Spangler's barn.

But they did make a big mess trying to find it.

The damage included a demolished concrete floor, a water-filled hole that was 15 feet deep, a ruined septic system and piles of dirt that smothered vehicles and equipment around her Perry Township property.

"It was like a war zone," said Spangler's lawyer, John Scaccia. "It was like they were fighting al-Qaeda out there."

Spangler, who demanded compensation in a 2006 lawsuit, won a federal appeals court decision Friday that allows her case against the sheriffs of Brown and Clermont counties to go forward.

The decision by the U.S. 6th Circuit Court of Appeals in Cincinnati could leave Clermont County Sheriff A.J. "Tim" Rodenberg and Brown County Sheriff Dwayne Wenninger on the hook for tens of thousands of dollars in repairs if Spangler wins her case.

Rodenberg, Wenninger and their lawyers could not be reached Friday, but they previously have said they did nothing wrong and made every effort to minimize damage to Spangler's property.

The dispute arose in early 2004 when Clermont County deputies received a tip that the remains of Carrie Culberson, the Blanchester woman who vanished more than a decade ago, might be located near or under the barn on Spangler's property.

Culberson's boyfriend, Vincent Doan, was convicted in 1997 of killing her, but her body was never found despite searches at several locations over the years. Authorities have said the tip about Spangler's barn came from a reliable source.

Spangler's son, Jerrod Messer, lived on the property until he went to prison on unrelated drug charges in 2003.

"Law enforcement had a reasonable belief ... that Ms. Culberson's body may be buried under the concrete floor of the garage," the sheriffs' lawyers wrote in a recent court brief.

FBI agents assisted in the search and deputies from Brown County joined them because the barn is located in that county.

When dogs trained to find cadavers "hit" on a number of spots around the barn, the investigators scoured the property and tore up the barn's concrete floor looking for body parts or other evidence.

The hole in the floor, which soon filled with rainwater, eventually consumed most of the barn's space and was up to 15 feet deep. Dirt and concrete were piled outside the barn, at times on top of equipment and vehicles that Spangler had stored on the property.

No evidence linking Culberson to the site was found, and the search was called off after more than a week of digging.

Scaccia said the sheriffs made no attempt to repair the damage they'd done, telling the 58-year-old Spangler they were under no obligation to do so.

"I was devastated," Spangler said Friday. "I didn't think that law enforcement could come out to somebody's place and do something like that. It's horrible."

Scaccia said the search was based on a bad tip about Culberson and that investigators compounded the problem by continuing to destroy the property even after it became clear there was no point in pursuing the search. He said the tons of dirt dumped on cars and equipment could have been put elsewhere on the two-acre property without damaging anything.

The bottom line, he said, is that Spangler did nothing wrong but was left with a big mess and tens of thousands of dollars in damage.

"Let's concede they had a probable cause to look," Scaccia said. "That doesn't mean you act like this. That doesn't mean you go forward in a way that is unreasonable.

"It's not the way we're supposed to be operating in the United States of America."

The panel of three 6th Circuit judges did not rule on Spangler's claims, but they agreed the sheriffs should remain in the case and could be held liable for damages.

"The property was left in complete disarray," wrote Judge Damon Keith, who was joined by judges R. Guy Cole and Julia Smith Gibbons in the decision. "The totality of the circumstances did not warrant the knowing destruction of plaintiff's personal property."
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Re: Assumed Deceased: Carrie Culberson--OH--08/28/1996
« Reply #29 on: September 24, 2011, 08:29:36 AM »
3 Moms Gather To Remember Missing Children
Moms Say They Have Tragedy Of Losing Their Children In Common

 
POSTED: 11:17 pm EDT September 23, 2011
UPDATED: 12:18 am EDT September 24, 2011

COVINGTON, Ky -- Three local moms came together Friday night to mark the first year anniversary of a missing teenager, while remembering two others who are also missing.

[Excerpt...]

Donna Johnson said she still doesn't know what happened to her daughter, Paige, who disappeared a year ago. Another mom, Debbie Estes, said she wants to know why her son, Billy, vanished last spring.

The third mom, Debbie Culberson, said she has been looking for her daughter, Carrie, who disappeared 15 years ago. Although a man was convicted of Carrie's murder, Culberson said her daughter's body was never found.

Read more: http://www.wlwt.com/news/29286255/detail.html#ixzz1YsNe9owU
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